On 9th January at Macworld 2007 Apple revealed its firts phone, the long-awaited Iphone. But it was partly a disappointment. Why is that ? I’ll give you the top 5 reasons:
1) Apple Iphone has NO 3G
You put a 3.5″ touchscreen TFT display with a resolution of 320×480 pixels on the phone, you call it somewhat “Internet-oriented” and you ONLY GIVE IT EDGE ? This is an outrage to say the least.
2) Apple Iphone has a 2MP Camera
This is more than “last year”, how can you come in 2007 and annouce that your highly expected phone has a 2MP camera. That’s insane, Nokia N95 will have a 5 (FIVE) MP camera, and plenty more mobile phones have already at least a 3MP camera
3) Apple Iphone comes with 4Gb or 8GB of memory
Oh no they didn’t, but … they DID. They have only put a maximum of 8GB in the Apple Iphone. You bring products with 80GB and you put in your phone only EIGHT ? Bad Apple, bad, bad, bad …
4) Apple Iphone battery life
With the 3.5 inch touchscreen display, and the thickness of 11.6mm, you can expect Apple Iphone battery to die after even less than 2 days of music listening, talking on the phone and surfing the web. Unacceptable for this product.
5) Apple Iphone huge price
They are really crazy, the price in Cingular networks for the 4GB model with a 2 year plan is 499$ !!! And for the 8GB one, 599$. They may be relying on Apple fans for sells but that’s too bold, even from them.
here’s a picture of the i-phone.
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there was an article recently in wired on the growing use of ‘proprietary technologies and their tendency to stifle creativity’. lets apply this idea to steve job’s latest steaming pile, the ‘iphone’:
1) locked into a single provider
2) limited storage capacity
3) relies on oem produced software to sync
4) proprietary OS
how can you praise the virtues of having an adaptable interface and go and lock yourself in at other places?
what a total rip off. anyone who buys this device as a replacement for an ipod and telephone is going to find themselves very soon wishing they had just a little more storage as soon as they download a few seasons of 24.
good job steve. it doesn’t matter what happens to the users of this device after they buy it; as long as apple gets a nice fat initial revenue burst in june.
So by your own logic, the i-mate PDAL you just wrote about has all these problems and even ends up being worse.
What do you have against Apple?
3g eats a lot of power though.
who really wants to shoot HD photos on a tiny ccd lens with no zoon/focus, manual controls?
micro hdd would really chew the battery - thus flash ram. 8gb is kinda the most you get in mp3 players these days.
battery life? yeah, it would prolly be a downer…
huge price? as in the PDA market? cellphone market? camera market? mp3 market? its really not too bad considering all features wrapped into one unit. It too plays a cut down version on OS X - which has possibilities to expand what it can actually do.
Still, i’d rather see one in action before i buy one. And Apple love showing off their stuff in their stores.
Nice first iPhone burn!
The strange thing to me is that the HP iPAQs could do all of this for years (except the phone part on most models), and you can get a nice iPAQ for under $200 (get a refurbished HP rx3715 for example real cheap on ebay). It has wireless, web browser, instant messaging, built-in camera, you can watch videos, see photos, play songs, play games, calendar, voice record, everything. It even has infrared to work as a universal remote at home.
So I really liked the iPhone a whole lot, until I saw the $500-$600 price. It’s basically like a playstation portable plus phone but minus any (good) games. Way over-priced. A 2MP camera isn’t worth it for the price too.
And about the on-screen vs. real buttons. There’s a reason real buttons can be better. You can feel them. You don’t have to constantly try to remember where a button is, look at the screen to confirm, etc. I hope to god nobody tries driving with this phone.
Well, make this reason #6, 7, 8… so on
6. Apple iPhone is just too big-
Look, there is nothing like a phone that could fit in a great pair of old jeans. With the iPhone, there’s no way your going to risk putting it in your front pocket and heaven forbids if you sit down.
7. Apple iPhone will not fit in the iPod slots of third party products-
I thought for sure they would allow people to leveage all the third-party add-on’s you find that works nicely for the iPod. The iPhone is a whole new spill.
8. No other carrier-
ATT sucks.
imagine if the touch screen feature, widescreen, and 802.11b/g features were added to the 80g ipod… that would be sweet !!! You dropped the ball APPLE… the phone has a bunch of features that are not fully developed. does apple really expect the people who buy all the apple stuff to buy this phone? We all already have Ipods, therefore we don’t an additional ipod that makes phone calls too.
1 No G3….yes it does eat battery!!! Not really disapointed, but it is a version 1.0 product. Lets not forget all the short commings of the Zune…which rumor has it will turn to a zunephone too.
2 2MP Camera…This is again middle road. I would reather see video, but to have apple put in a camera at all for a 1st gen phone is fine by me….also consider that not all phones are equal. This phone could take better pics then some 3 megapixel phone cameras out there today.
3 4-8GB size…a hd device would burn mega battery life….no brainer there.
4 Battery life….speculation…should not be on the list above.
5 Price….The iPod was Very high for an mp3 player, and look where they are today!!! Again duh should not be on the list.
Again this is a 1st gen product…I could see Apple breaking up the phone like the iPods…3 different Phones.
You made a great point Jacelin. However, to add to what you’d already said I can’t see why I would be giving up my MOTO SLVR L7 for the iPhone.
Jackel, just because you say there are a lot of “duh” reasons, that means that they can’t be reason why the phone sucks? Nice try, but I hope this phone is a disaster, there is nothing “revolutionary” about it.
I think it was a nice move for apple to come out with the apple iPhone. The iPhone has most features consumers have been wanting to have. I also think the price will not deter people from buying the iPhone apple phon. I even think they will sell more then the 10 million apple iPhones they expect to sell within the year.
You know, I’ve been wanting a phone that doubles as a good mp3 player. If this was basically a small phone with a nano built in i’d be happy. I had a chocolate, for about a day before I took it back. AFAIK, the chocolate is the only thing attempting to cornet this market, and it sucks. I hope apple gets it right. I don’t see this competing with smartphones at all. There is a market of people who want that kind of functionalty, but not if it means getting a big ugly phone.
MMmm I think there are some issues with it, that are not listed and am not too concerned with a few of the problems listed above.
It if has wifi, I’m not to concerned with it not having 3G.
The battery life, I think its speculation and doubt it will last as long as they speculate. For present day comparisons as well as its huge touch screen, it doesn’t add up.
The main issue I have with it, is the touch screen.
While fine for dialing, a touchscreen keyboard has always sucked. They have tried that before and people clamored for the tactile buttons instead.
And the price is at least double what a present day WM product can do… except the “pinch” feature and rolling address bar. Frankly I can find my contacts and songs faster by typing in the first couple of letters. And as for “pinch”… simple zoom in and out buttons do just fine.
So aside from the size, Im not sure what all the hype is about?!?!
Later, I gotta download some stuff from my p2p program on my cell, now that is something you know apple will NEVER have !!!
I read somewhere that iPhone doesn’t support java nor 3rd party app. That’s SUCK, big time. I’ll never buy that sort of phone, ever! Only technophobics would want a locked phone like that!
buy a 8gb iPod nano for $200 (or les for a non-iPod model.)
buy a phone for ~$100.
total=~$250-300.
iPhone=iPod Phone Internet
Cost=$500-600… is $300 really worth it just for internet browsing???
while im not american (british here =), i can guess prices. $500-600 for a clunky device that is attempts to do everything is not on. the camera is only 2MP which is alright.
iphone sucks. who wants to leave greasy smudges all over you nice big screen everytime you use your phone?
no real buttons? wtf? there’s a good reason for having real buttons…you can FEEL them, memorize their positions and operate the damn thing one-handed with your eyes looking elsewhere!
and dont get me started on the price!
get real!
Ron, that’s “for-real”!
Real buttons are tangible, and adds more life experience to the value of learning the phone. Screens are not all things to all people. If I hive my phone to someone else to use, I don’t and souldn’t have to teach them how to use my phone. In an emergency situation, I might need someone to use my phone (if I can’t) and heaven forbids, if someone or myself, hands someone a iPhone… You get me?
If I hand my present cell phone, no problem they could immediately dial.
1)no 3g - yeah.. it is sad that i want be able to make video calls..but its a business strategy, why bother putting everything in iphone now, when u can produce better iphones in the future, stabilizing and capturing newer and more revenues from the market.
2) 2mp camera - yeah.. i agree it is small compared to the newer phones.. but its a business strategy, why bother putting everything in iphone now, when u can produce better iphones in the future, stabilizing and capturing newer and more revenues from the market.
3)4GB/8GB - the biggest phone now is one of the N-series by nokia which has 8GB. so what? the fuck u wanna put in a phone? your moms porno movies?..its a business strategy, why bother putting everything in iphone now, when u can produce better iphones in the future, stabilizing and capturing newer and more revenues from the market.
4)battery life - who the fuck u wanna talk to for 5 fuckin hours? still, i agree the talk time can be better..but its a business strategy, why bother putting everything in iphone now, when u can produce better iphones in the future, stabilizing and capturing newer and more revenues from the market.
5)price - expensive?? than why dont u buy a laptop with some phone softwares in them u cheap piece of shit! all u poor ppl are same, just yak yak like some dog. one advice, study hard and then get a real job.. now go and get that job and stop being such a loser.
oh brian unger, you humor me so:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6859750
iphonerulz, you’re an idiot!
Of course we all know they are all business strategy, so Stockholm Syndromed Apple Community keep on paying Apple Tax.
When people say the price is expensive, they’re mostly talking about value for money. It means with the same money or less you can buy another phone with similar or better features.
Granted the other phones are not Apple’s (doh), but if you pay extra just because it’s an Apple’s product, then serve your right.
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“Until now, people had no way to listen to music, check their e-mail or take photographs,” Apple CEO Steve Jobs said at the unveiling ceremony. “I mean, can you imagine what it would be like to speak to family members over long-distance? Or capture images from life? Trust me, this has never been done before.”
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/UnNews:IPhone_big_hit_among_wealthy,_stupid
Apple is like Betamax LOL
Is it really as stuffed with innovative features as Steve Jobs made it sound from the stage at Macworld Expo last week? Nah. Most of those features have been around in one form or another for years. Apple just put them all together.
Which is part of what makes the iPhone such a brilliant idea — and such a terrible example for corporate IT.
Widescreen pocket media player? Been done. Handheld Web browser? Been done. Quad-band GSM phone? Been done, in almost every way imaginable. Camera? Wi-Fi? Bluetooth? Old news. Even the all-touch-screen phone interface Jobs gushed over (“We’re going to use the best pointing device in our world — we’re born with 10 of them, our fingers”) has been around since 2001.
Yes, Apple tweaked those features, polished them up and added some small enhancements like “the pinch” for zooming in on Web content. Mostly, though, Apple took a big pile of things that already work and then stitched them together into something new.
But does Apple know what users will actually do with the iPhone? Nope. Jobs all but admitted that last week when he claimed he was introducing three new products before unveiling the one real thing.
No doubt the people who worked for years to create the iPhone believe they’ve created a beautifully integrated all-in-one gadget. It’s elegant. It’s stylish. But it’s a gadget whose real purpose — and future — depends on its users.
Maybe users will just decide it’s the world’s best (and most expensive) iPod. Maybe they’ll see it mainly as the perfect pocket-size Web-browsing device. Maybe Apple’s cachet is so strong that some people really will want it as a $500 cell phone.
Most likely, early iPhone buyers will end up mixing and matching those functions. They’ll figure out what’s useful and what’s not.
They’ll discover uses that never occurred to the iPhone’s designers.
And a year from now, those early adopters will have made clear to Apple what should come next — whether that means a big-screen iPod that’s just an iPod, an even-more-beefed-up Web/phone combo, or just a big hole in Apple’s product line where the iPhone used to be.
For Apple, the iPhone’s identity crisis is a gamble — and an opportunity to let users tell the company what the product is good for. Listening to those users isn’t just a good idea. It’s crucial. They’ll tell Apple how to be successful.
So, why is that such an awful example for us?
In IT, we need to listen to users too. To be successful, we have to pay attention to what users actually do with the software and hardware we deploy. Those people are the ones who can tell us what’s right and wrong with our systems, and show us problems and advantages we’d otherwise never know about.
But we don’t have the luxury of years to build applications that bundle together a lot of good ideas. We can’t afford an identity crisis. And we definitely can’t risk waiting until after we’ve dropped a system in users’ hands to find out whether we’re on the right track.
Our job is to cut that risk — with prototypes, user input and feedback, and plenty of hands-on testing as we develop a system. Sure, we know what works. That’s not enough. We need to learn what our users will do with it. And we need to learn that early and often.
We have the opportunity to know what our users need before we finish our elegant, stylish work. And we can’t afford not to.
So, as we all lust after Apple’s shiny new gadget, just remember this: The iPhone may be a brilliant success — or an elegant failure. No one knows for sure yet.
But we can be sure that what works for the iPhone is still a very bad idea for IT pocesses and examples.
I got to say im not totally impresssed with the iPhone but remember apple always gets better over time, I believe they will evolve the iPhone as they did with th iPod. It will keep gettin better.
I already have a ibook G4 and an ipod nano and i really want the iphone, i dont think it sucks but come on Apple!!!!!!!!! Why didnt you make somthing more powerfull!
iPhone leaves a large void of want:
1-No 1000s of 3rd party addins. ( Steve flatly stated it will not be an open system for 3rd party programs)
2-No Replaceable battery
3-No additional memory card
4-No syncing with MS Exchange servers making it no use to business market.
5-You will need to BUY additional ringtones and not play any WAV file you want. - READ UP ON IT.
6- Lacks ability to play additional formats such as DivX.
7-Will NEVER have a P2P program for it. Hell will freeze over if Aple allows you to download an MP3 without having to use itunes to do so.
8-Touchpad keyboards WERE TRIED and tactile keyboards came back because of demand. ipod will never be a 1 handed text device yet alone 2.
9-Play web radio. Because windows mobile allows about anyone to write a program for it, there are programs to listen to webradio through it.
10- Does not look like it will survive a 1 foot, yet alone 6 inch, drop test. Many smart phones survive by having the battery pop out when dropped.
Lastly $500 that’s WITH a 2 year plan subsidized?! It’s already showed that it won’t be much for business users. It lacks alot of the want for additional products and a touch keypad is awful for txting which kids live off of. So who is going to buy this?
Sorry but not sure what audience Apple was aiming for.
If anyone wishes to argue these things please do, as I have no found anyone to discredit the 10 things I’ve mentioned.
PS - Also very funny that Apple is trying to stop a WM skin going around out there that looks indentical to the iPHONE. —things you can do with an open system.
There IS a reason why Verizon Wireless (the first that Apple tried to make a deal to pick up the iPhone) dumped the iPhone: Cingular (now the new at&t) SUCKS network quality-wise, customer service-wise, and overall service-wise. According to the COO of Verizon, the phone is as good as the network it is on.
I am currently a HIGHLY SATISFIED Verizon Wireless customer. (previously dumped Cingular, Sprint, T-Mobile, and Alltel)
iphone has no important specifications like excel wordbook,powerpoint,word document,appointment.can someone tell me if iphone got these stuff.nope
If you nerds are so smart, why don’t you engineer the product from scratch and try to put all those extra pumped up features you crybabies want into that thing.
You are going to realize that, yes, it is very impossible unless we come up with better chip technology (even smaller and more powerful)
Yes, the iPhone is nothing more than a sales stunt, because there are so many jarheads, dumb mexicans, and black gorillas who will think it’s the next best thing.
Being an idiot sure does pay for the other business. I say, good job Steve. Smart business strategy.
Ben,
What the hell? All the electronic technologies are made by nerds! LOL
And glad you agreed that iPhone sucks. Nobody said Steve is not smart.
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“Nerds shall inherit the earth” - Mike Myers
It’s Rocks
Stop hating, this one blog entry isn’t going to do shit to Apple’s sales. The device looks amazing, i’m not even an apple fan, but im still buying. Price? get over it, nothing is cheap these days.
Lies, lies and more lies.
The Real Ben
Why don’t we make it from scratch?
The point is:
THERE ARE PHONES ALREADY THAT HAVE ALL THESE FEATURES!!!
Mactards just don’t know anything outside of their mactarded world!
Lets face it Apple is crap, I bought my girl an Ipod cause everyone else had one and she knew the name ipod. It was against my better judgemet as I had an iriver that was a great player just a bit big (but did have 40 freeking gigs). We fired up the ipod and found we needed itunes to get music on it. Ok loaded the itunes which proceeded to take over the computer. Next day the ipod was shipped back and a Sansa player ordered. I started reading more about Apple and their bullcrap products and determined to never buy another Apple product. I will give them credit they resurrected themselves with slick advertising just as BOSE did. Bose managed to take a $20 radio and convince people to pay a thousand dollars for a horrible sounding ieice of junk with slick advertising. Luckily there are just enough stipid people out there to pay way too much for garbage products that are sold with some of the best advertising available. The best part of all this is that Apple could only get AT and T to work with them. Those idiots at cingular thought changing back to AT and T was a good idea. Guess I am getting old cause I would never ever buy anything from those a holes at good ole Ma Bell. They are just hoping the ignorent youth wont know how bad they were. Kids think for yourselves say no to apple and att……
who really needs all of that stuff on a phone can it make a call and get a call that is all that i care about
i have a computer at home and i have all of the news and things like that in ……………..a newspaper!!!!!
well texting is cool…but just call me and tell me what you want to say
The Real Ben - is a buffoon and should not be allowed in any public arena.
Productions such as this device require more than just improved chip technology.
Nerds are smart
Wow, I didn’t expect that much feedback from so many ‘buffoons’.
It’s no wonder we need business people. After all, they know how to make money from a genuine product - or a lousy one. Steve Jobs did it again and saved Apple by targeting crybaby teenagers and snob-headed Paris Hiltons. They will spend close to 1,000/year on airtime services and activation fees. And how many people are expected to buy this thing? Lots of $$..
I guess those engineers are racking in the $$ from such awesome sales…at least we think they are. Doesn’t do any good being such a geek when you can’t market the dam thing right…
You have to wonder if those hot babes in Marketing really did make a difference for AT&T as well.
Though I thought the 5G iPod (Which I own) would be pretty sweet, it’s totally a POS when you get right down to it. It’s another way for Apple to run its DRM machine… But on the hardware side of things, it’s pretty awful as well:
What does it do but play MP3’s and organize them poorly?? Let’s say I’m listening to something by Nickelback per the shuffle feature and I say “shit… I’m really liking Nickelback right now, I’d like to listen to more!” Can I hit one of the buttons that says “Goto artist/genre/album”? No! Can I remove shit from playlists? No! Can I manage playlists? No! If these features were a part of the OS, would I be too stupid to use them? No! Add another god damn button to the thing! Any change that would have made the iPod more useful would have been revolutionary, and they had 5.5 generations to figure it out–but didn’t. Stop insulting us with your expensive toys with a fundamental lack of capability.
Oh, and with said lack of functionality, WHY DOES THE FRIGGIN’ THING FREEZE ALL THE TIME?? I mean honestly… what does the iPod actually have to DO that makes it so UNRELIABLE?? And honestly, WHO ACTUALLY LIKES USING THE CLICK WHEEL ANYWAY! I feel like I’m taking CRAZY PILLS!
…so why should we expect any more from this POS that runs the far more complicated OSX and has just one more superfluous way of navigating data when it’s only a load in the Mac fanboys panties and he realizes he doesn’t WANT to flick through his contacts after the first 2 days of showing it off to his loser friends?
iPhone simply sucks - nothing inovative in it besides the multi touch screen. Ehich I’m not convinced it’s a good idea on a cell phone
Therealben
Who are the bafoons?
its the techies and businessmen that already have functional devices and toys.
So who is buying iphone? retards that buy into marketing.
Right now for instance if you were to drop money, why buy the iphone when Sprints Mogul does everything and much more, on a faster network, plus can be used as a turn by turn gps device… on a better plan for cheaper?
again people who WANT the iphone to work regardless of its actal funtion! - are retarded sheep like you!
Apple simply puts out junk! this is a fashion accessory, nothing more. It’s a PHONE for god sake! Junk junk junk!
ok. so $1000 for a phone? that’s retarded. buy a 600 dollar laptop - internet, music, instant messaging, video, email, and it’s portable like a phone. so far it has most things the iphone has except a phone. so if you don’t already have a phone buy one. it’s most likely going to be just 100 dollars - make calls, receive calls, text messaging. so $700 for everything and more than an iPhone. so it’s more useful and less likely of getting in a car accident. look you save 300 dollars. iPod is a useful invention simply because people don’t want to carry around a CD player. instead, iPod gave people the opportunity to carry around stolen music. although the iPod was useful, doesn’t mean the iPhone was going to be a success too. it seems to me that they were aiming for rich people with patience. but even then, it’s still useless. also, when you end up paying more for a phone than your first car(if you weren’t born rich) isn’t that kind of ridiculous? basically what i’m trying to say is that this phone is extremely over priced. and if you rich people are saying that i should just go to college and get a job, well i’m not old enough for that and if that were the case, a phone like that doesn’t deserve a cost of a car or a pc. or even a small apartment. i mean c’mon, a home or a phone. wtf. and for you businessmen saying that that’s how brilliant you people are because you can sell something so shitty. well look at what you’re reading now. you think you’re the only one reading this? what about people that read reviews before they buy something retard. when apple realizes that they’ve created a complete failure what will they make next? miniature iLaptop? apple you did good at iPod. stop already.
Let’s start from the beginning:
Me compared to everyone else on this thread. Ready??? I OWN one. I’ve been using it for a day and a half nonstop. You don’t have one, haven’t used it either. Then, from a performance basis, you’re guessing.
Secondly, all you pissants that only have a PC, never have owned a Mac (but feel compelled to comment about how much they “suck”) and use your “phone” as your primary camera or to be prepared for the “next great YouTube video just waiting to happen” device, then stick with your virus ridden crap that you already have and go pick your zits. “No web radio”. Guess what else?? It doesn’t come with a free paint ball gun either.
“No expandable memory”. Hmmm. I also own a 60 gig iPod with a ca-jillion songs on it. Guess how many I routinely listen to??? maybe, MAYBE 300. Going somewhere??? You can add 5 crisp movies to this, along with your 300 songs.
You have a home computer — use it!!! File management 101. Change up your video/MP3 list every once in a awhile. No big deal. Syncing with this is quick. How do I know??? I OWN one. You don’t.
If anything over $129.00 to you is for “The Man” - as in “Stick it to . . .”, then go play with your plastic LG phone and again, pick you zits. This ain’t Grand Theft Auto.
I rely on my smartphone for business apps, primarily, database access, calendar, phone and to a lesser extent, internet and email. I have used a Mac for many years at home, and PC for my work out of necessity. I use both everyday. I’m very proficient at both. Macs are great, PC’s are a pain, period.
The iPhone integrates all of the time/data management apps that I’ve had on my Mac for years, but until now, have had to settle for Palm OS product’s pseudo-renditions (Treo, etc.) to access them by mobile device. It’s not the same interface.
I will say that if you live and die with 100’s of corporate emails a day and rely heavily on web access THROUGH your cell phone provider, on your smartphone???? Then this device AND GSM are not for you. The GSM half of that arguement you should already know. Get a Blackberry. It’s a better device for this.
I bought the iPhone yesterday. I’ve played with it all day today. End of day?? 1/4 power. Ready for this rocket science, battery rescuing technique??? — I plugged it in. Problem solved.
“The battery’s going to die after a couple of days!” You sound like my mother and her cell phone. PLUG IT IN!!!
The interface is seemless. I’m not going to spend 4 pages of how very cool this thing is, because after 2 minutes, you’ll be back on your PSP, anyway.
“Doesn’t play non-iTunes downloaded MP3’s” — YES IT DOES, OH IGNORANT ONE! Been there, done that, all day today. It also plays Handbrake ripped movies.
“Doesn’t work with MS Exchange, play Divx or WAV files.” Hmmmm — don’t really give a rat’s ass. Works great with my Mac.
“Touchpads were tried once” — not on this, they weren’t. This is an entirely new interface, period, with the absolute best predictive text you’ll ever see. I’ve had mine for a day and a half and can already type faster on this than I could on my Treo after a year.
Durability??? Hmmm: Why don’t you read what PCMag.com did with theirs. This is about the 4th PDA/phone that I’ve owned over $500 bucks. This IS hands down the most durable piece of machinery for portable use I’ve ever owned. No cheap, plastic dipped arrows, scroll buttons or navigation rings that look like crap after a few months because the model plane paint that they use starts chipping off in flakes (the Treo 270 sticks out in this category like a big, pus-filled sore thumb!!!). This is impact glass and metal. On a side note, I do with this the same that I do with all of my portable, expensive media devices, PUT THE DAMNED THING IN A CASE. Most of you on this thread were probably the same people who whined because your iPod Nano got all scratched up as it came out of your back pocket while skate boarding. Protect your investment, boys and girls.
If you haven’t figured out how to encode a video into a Quicktime MP4 (which works on an iPhone), whizkid, then you’ve probably also been crying for hours now because your Napolean Dynamite ringtone won’t work on this device either.
Text messaging works like a charm on this thing. POP email, too. Web rendering on the Safari app is definitely like nothing you’ve seen before. It’s the actual website (minus Java — big whoop).
I’ve read reports about the so-so service on this, phonewise. I’ve had 6 devices now through GSM services, including the iPhone. They all sound the same, and I’ll admit that it’s not the best. But, it’s adequate. Having came from the early AT&T service (about 8 years ago), I’m convinced that it’s the GSM technology. I have to tell you though, after I bought my Treo 2 years ago, with a full keyboard, I find that I’m using texting over calling 6 to 1 these days, anyway.
No 3G??? The day before the iPhone came out, AT&T released a massive 2.5G update for their EDGE technology. Having already been an AT&T (Cingular) customer, I can compare apples to apples: It’s waaayyyyy quicker than before. Anyway, if you’re in a WiFi hotspot, you use WiFi.
Ahhhh, music . . . This is the absolute best iPod ever made, from an interface standpoint. It’s brilliant, fun to use, elegant and easy. Just a hunch here, but from my point of view, I think that you can say “bye-bye” to the click wheel. I wouldn’t be surprised if the next iPod looks very very close to the iPhone.
Want to know what’s really interesting??? When, in a month or two, Apple gets thousands of requests on what should be changed, because this is an entirely virtual interface, all they have to do is to send out a software update. You plug it in to charge it, iTunes pops up requesting you to approve an update and presto-chango, you have a new phone.
I spend about 50 hours a year helping friends of mine: 1. un-screw-up their PC’s, 2. Figure out the 20 or 30 steps that they need to do to get their PC to work vs. the 5 or 6 steps I’d do on my Mac and 3. Figure out what’s wrong with some 3rd party, obscure app that’s massively messing up their Piece of Crap PC. Wonder why Apple doesn’t do 3rd party stuff?? This is why.
This device has been HEAVILY anticipated by serious Mac users for years. It’s been the single, missing piece of the perfect puzzle. And Apple has come through with flying colors. This device is 3 times as cool as I thought it would be. Have a PC??? Are you of the “All things Apple Suck” mentality??? Fine. Don’t buy one. I wouldn’t want you to pawn your XBox, anyway.
Chris,
You really need to get laid man…by a hot babe (no, not your current gf).
wow. chris just dominated some faces. as a side note, anyone who is whining about a couple hundred dollars price difference needs to stop being so poor.
Idiots with credit cards and high APR’s aren’t the guys complaining. It’s those who are smart-minded about not buying something that’s not practical.
Then again, being brought into this world with good-headed parents (preferably white and snotty) and loads of money does have its privileges.
Good luck with those iPhones, nerds and losers..
CHRIS you are a complete MACTARD
Some of the points you made were correct.
Some you pulled directly from your ass which your head was inserted in! You are a mac user that bitches, whines, and makes excuses for Apple’s constant shortcomings that sit right along side your own. You are an idiot because you only know what he’s given. If you don’t look outside your fucking bubble, then you’re delusional to think that Apple offers anything but a fucking headache!
You’re a user, WE are mostly techs that look all around and get all we want from applications out there.
We know functionality, you know name brand! Thus you earned the title “MACTARD!”
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“Touchpads were tried once” — not on this, they weren’t. This is an entirely new interface, period, with the absolute best predictive text you’ll ever see. I’ve had mine for a day and a half and can already type faster on this than I could on my Treo after a year.
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GOOGLE “SPB” - ITS BEEN DONE BEFORE AND BETTER. THIS IS ONLY 1 EXAMPLE OF MANY
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Text messaging works like a charm on this thing. POP email, too. Web rendering on the Safari app is definitely like nothing you’ve seen before. It’s the actual website (minus Java — big whoop).
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ACTUAL WEBSITE WOW - have you tried ANY other web browser or just used MS mobile’s IE ?
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“No expandable memory”. Hmmm. I also own a 60 gig iPod with a ca-jillion songs on it. Guess how many I routinely listen to??? maybe, MAYBE 300. Going somewhere??? You can add 5 crisp movies to this, along with your 300 songs.
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Benefit of swappable memory, you get to change your library on the run, instead of having to go back HOME! Awwww somthing simple you can’t comprehend.
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The iPhone integrates all of the time/data management apps that I’ve had on my Mac for years, but until now, have had to settle for Palm OS product’s pseudo-renditions (Treo, etc.) to access them by mobile device. It’s not the same interface.
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WTF dorky/dinky time management apps do you use? MACARD products? Wow - you had to SETTLE for products that werent made for 3rd rate fuckup programs. Those devices were made for real programs and Enterprise pushing/syncing of everything perfectly.
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No 3G??? The day before the iPhone came out, AT&T released a massive 2.5G update for their EDGE technology. Having already been an AT&T (Cingular) customer, I can compare apples to apples: It’s waaayyyyy quicker than before. Anyway, if you’re in a WiFi hotspot, you use WiFi.
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LOL I love it! A goldfish thinks hes the most free, strongest, quickest fish in the world but only knows what is inside his little fishbowl. Until you’ve been on a 3g network or CDMA DATA network, you are sadly reaching!
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“Doesn’t work with MS Exchange, play Divx or WAV files.” Hmmmm — don’t really give a rat’s ass. Works great with my Mac.
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TRANSLATION - I CANT DO ANY OF THESE THINGS THUS I HAVE TO SAY THEY DONT MATTER!
HAHA - They matter to alot of people. It’s called freedom to chose what the fuck you want to do and not be tied down to a MACcrap computer.
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“Doesn’t play non-iTunes downloaded MP3’s” — YES IT DOES, OH IGNORANT ONE! Been there, done that, all day today. It also plays Handbrake ripped movies.
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You are right it does play those, but the opposite is NOT true. The downloaded BIB BROTHER ITUNES will not let you transfer songs to other devices only your brainwashed mac and ipod. You are locked , you are a bitch, and for some reason, you like being owned.
NOT US!
This is my favorite: DENIAL OF PHYSICS!
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Durability??? Hmmm: Why don’t you read what PCMag.com did with theirs. This is about the 4th PDA/phone that I’ve owned over $500 bucks. This IS hands down the most durable piece of machinery for portable use I’ve ever owned. No cheap, plastic dipped arrows, scroll buttons or navigation rings that look like crap after a few months because the model plane paint that they use starts chipping off in flakes (the Treo 270 sticks out in this category like a big, pus-filled sore thumb!!!)
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It has a larger screen, its GLASS (LOL@ impact glass =laminated glass is all!) It is not any special Quartz which prevents scratches and cracking. More space, less pressure needed to crack- Simple physics!
True no exra buttons, it requires you to screw around with the screen then use some convenient scroll or up button. You think thats BETTER? = MACTARD!
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If you haven’t figured out how to encode a video into a Quicktime MP4 (which works on an iPhone), whizkid, then you’ve probably also been crying for hours now because your Napolean Dynamite ringtone won’t work on this device either.
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Why use a proprietary format that is one of the most bloated to take the most space? That is why we use DivX !
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Want to know what’s really interesting??? When, in a month or two, Apple gets thousands of requests on what should be changed, because this is an entirely virtual interface, all they have to do is to send out a software update. You plug it in to charge it, iTunes pops up requesting you to approve an update and presto-chango, you have a new phone.
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You know whats more funny, Apple doesn’t for a year! And when Smarphone users want to change their interface, they just DO IT !
They dont wait, there are dozens of 3rd party apps that help them choose as well!
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I spend about 50 hours a year helping friends of mine: 1. un-screw-up their PC’s, 2. Figure out the 20 or 30 steps that they need to do to get their PC to work vs. the 5 or 6 steps I’d do on my Mac and 3. Figure out what’s wrong with some 3rd party, obscure app that’s massively messing up their Piece of Crap PC. Wonder why Apple doesn’t do 3rd party stuff?? This is why.
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Thus you actually know nothing spending so much time. And PC users actually can doing upgrades but you are content doing nothing or simply buying a whole new machine and calling THAT upgradable!
PS- I have gone out to service company partners home MAC-craps, their wives, their kids because they have soooo many issues with products that simply do not work with macs. i have to tell them , No mam, that service and availability is only for PCs.. sorry!
I do this OFTEN and not without trying to look for a MAC alternative which are half assed at best… when I’m able to find one.
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This device has been HEAVILY anticipated by serious Mac users for years. It’s been the single, missing piece of the perfect puzzle. And Apple has come through with flying colors. This device is 3 times as cool as I thought it would be. Have a PC??? Are you of the “All things Apple Suck” mentality??? Fine. Don’t buy one. I wouldn’t want you to pawn your XBox, anyway.
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To CONCLUDE:
The top 2 sentences totally explain Apples retardation effect. it just came out, Apples been promising its brain dead horde for years a product that others have had FOR YEARS. Mactards just were too stupid to realize or look outside their retarded bubble.
For the serious GAMERS, PC USERS, ENTERPRISE USERS, TECHS, BUSINESSMEN, REAL GRAPHIC ARTISTS (using graphic cards in SLI mode when Macretards cant), and REAL COLLABORATORS working with ubuntu, stick with what we KNOW works, not what we DREAM of our retarded little apple company MIGHT be able to do!
Chris dont get a real PC workstation or REAL functional phone, I wouldn’t want you to pawn your… um… ?!?! WTF does the Mactard Nation have for entertainment?!
LOL
chris,
from what i see on your post i would say you are one of those macbigot losers. dont come bragging here about your mac, because you’re not the only who owns a mac. guess what? i own a design shop and we have macs and pcs. so dont post and be arrogant, ok? i still dont understand why you have to be arrogant. so u own a mac, well you think ur cool and pcs are crap. u should think moron, there are only 10% mac users and 90% pcs. so u think 90% of the world are crap? think. think you piece of shit. now u are really getting on my nerves. imagine a 3rd world country, imagine developing countries that need to have aaccess to computers. do u think ur mac can help them? u stupid stupid man. ofcourse not, cuz its for “elites” (leets like u) who i think is even way poorer than me but comes here and flaunt himself as a rich guy. stupid punk. now just shut your mouth before i take you to skool. and yea, i teach design in a university, and we use macs. you should come and attend and il teach you how to be humble you bigot!
regarding the iphone, ive used one. one of my designers bought. and i think its a good piece of hardware. it could improve, but i think its biggest flaw is its phone functions. it IS an iphone. but it works like a retard as an iphone. i was actually thinking of getting one, but decided to stick with my T-mobile sidekick and buy it when it’s in its version 2. still, price is too high. but it has good functions , hardware and software. not that impressive though.
most phones already have a 3 Meg camara! dude your crazy, no offence but the black jack has a 1.3 Meg camara and the newest blackberry just got the 2 meg camara and some are price at over $300 and dont even have one, lol your funny remember iphone is in the US so dont compare it to the nokia, 1st reason to get and iphone is apple never forgets about there products and constantly issuing updates, you buy a blackberry and thats it your done, 2 the feature i love the most if visual voice mail because, it don’t waste your freaking minutes, you call voice mail from your cell and you use about 5 minutes everytime to get to the one you might want to hear
Ariel,
Visual Voicemail is NOT NEW!
Its a web service!
1-It’s something that was tied in with the iphone plan and can easily be done by ANY phone that accesses the web and FASTER BTW !
2-It gets updates because its flawed!
Not to mention every once in awhile, most phones are alerted to get a new firmware or OS update. Blackberry phones do I know this.
3- As for phones, the cheapest come with a camera, and BB never was supposed to be for camera but business use, but they through 1 in a model anyway. For 500-600 bucks, you better get a phone AND a 3g or comparable network. This way you can actually use it to send and receive email with those photos rather then sit on your ass all day waiting for it!
MAN, its like you mactards never had a decent phone before and STILL dont know what one is!
dude why the heck would i want 3G and any phone right now! Dont get me wrong 3G is pretty fast but, guess what, theres to little freaking coverage, i dont want a phone that is 3g capable, i would want a phone that can really have 3g all around, about the visual voice mail, ok most phone you can jump on the web and hear your messages but that’s even worse than dialing in to listen to them, iPhone is just one click away to listen and to update your custom greating iphone visual voice mail is not web base
1st visual voice mail its not web base 2 what good does it do to you having a 3G capable phone when theirs to little coverage, dont get it messup 3G is pretty fast, but i think its not really a big deal! because i might get more luck finding a hotspot then finding 3G around and theres no way in hell you could compare 3G to Wifi, #3 i had a HTC 8525 and my wife had a treo 750, both 3G, may them both rest in peace though , they where nice but its game over, they both to dam big am not a apple funboy all am saying unless your getting pay to critize the iphone try one before you express your opinion, so when you say something people really know what your talking about and you wont sound dum because alot of people sound like they really dont know what there saying, iphone is not perfect and i have found some things i dont like about it, no way in hell am goin back to my old so called state of the art pocket pc
Visual voicemail
Google it!
Then come back and tell me something unmactard ok?
Mactards are the scourge of the internet LOL
Seriously, how the hell do you think visual voicemail works?
it just converts them to voicefiles, and send sends them via email.
There are other sites that do this, plus post them on the web, so you can also review them on your computer as well.
ITS NOT IPHONE MAGICAL! ITS A SERVICE YA MACTARD!
ok genius can you name me one service provider that can download my voice mail to my blackberry by its self! and also my provider is ATT wireless, so ill like it to be compartible with it, also can i just record a gretting on my blackberry and just hit a button to set it as my default voicemail message for my clients, with out calling in, please help me out genius, can i have a link to it please ?
Why sure, did you google it?
Mactards usually dont know and are too lazy to even look.
Ok for starters there is SimulSays or Callwave.
callwave simulsays dude your joking right its a joke! how can you comment on something you haven even try, callwave and simulsays are web base apps you need to be on line in order to listen to them everytime you want to, iphone visual voice mail, its totally different it downloads your voicemails so you can listen to then when ever you want to hear them you dont even need a cell signal to do so, not to mention you can also upload grettings everytime you feel like, i bet you probabily think apple got the iNames from iBM too lol
callwave, simulsays. dude your joking right!, dude those are web base apps apperently you dont know the differnce there,iphone visual voice mail downloads your messages so theres no streaming or cell signal requiered to listen to them later, you can also record your custom greeting and change your current one with just one click, please dont write something you have not try so you wont sound dum
Um only a mactard would say otherwise.
LOL
iphone is NOT the one doing it.
Its an ATT service, that sends MMS messages with the voicemail attachments.
Callwave, simulsays will do the SAME THING DUMBASS!
Hell those can actually send you “moderately decent texts” of your messages along with the voice attachments as well.
What you think APPLE has ANYTHNG do with it?
More proof Apple users are dumbasses!
Before commenting with more mactardation, why not google “iphone” and “visual voicemail” and read up on it. Go on, stop being a mactard and use your own brain for once.
Callwave and simulsays can forward those as emails if you WANT, but also have it on an account for you to view on your computer as a web app as well.
Just curious?
how do you think the iphone gets its voicemail without streaming?
Its downloading the files off of the slow network.
What you think they popped on your iphone by magic?
Thus again, another reason for a 3G network.
Since there is no MMS on the iphone, you’re going to be emailing those nice pictures or receiving them from friends right? Would be nice to get them TODAY rather then waiting for 5 minutes to get the download.
And again the cut and paste is sooooo easy but annoying not to have. That by itself is annoying to have to type out a whole webmail address in an email or not being able to copy someone elses part of an email as a reference or many more examples of why cut and paste just should have been included but wasnt.
And as for sales of iphone, came up short of expectations on opening and dismal sales for first month afterwards.
Ooops the emperor has no clothes.
dude iphone is not perfect and trust me i know because i own one, but theses other companies have to step up there game because windows mobile is getting old and it feels sometimeslike if you where running win95, and there not even trying to make it better, although i admit iphone is missing somethings i want, it also has stuff, i really like and did not have before, just think about it this is only version 1.0, about sales dude they sold 275000 and 3 hours friday and just saturday thats pretty good believe it or not, not to mention they where just hoping to sell 1 million by years end, i could care less if apple sees daylight tomorrow but for now, ill have no problems buying a replacement if something where to happen to my unit, i believe its that good for my, apple and Microsoft all together who knows they could be working together
This is a really interesting thread. It is a shame that Apple product reviews always turn into the PC vs. Mac flame war. That war has been going on since the early 80’s and there will will not be a winner any time soon. :/ The fact is that the iPhone is a new product and definitely has it’s shortcomings, but at the same time it is a pretty neat appliance. The iTunes, web, and email interface is just fricking cool. I just have a big problem with the AT&T commitment as I have traveled a lot in Asia and always loved grabbing a local SIM to talk to whomever whenever. I don’t think it will be long until software is available to unlock the iPhone. I have read that people have successfully unlocked it in the UK, but it requires blank SIM cards, a SIM card reader, and other expertise (hackint0sh.org).
I will give Apple credit for always making their products sexy and sleek. Let’s face it, when you pull out an iPhone you will get people checking it out (at least for now).
I’m still on the fence whether or not to buy one. To be honest, I’ll probably wait until the next generation.
i really can’t understand why anyone would buy an iphone with all the downsides. the biggest to me are no keyboard (oops, my screen went out… now i can’t even make a phone call!), no removable battery (most common thing to go out on a cell phone) and the price. you can get a t-mobile wing (which has a full keyboard, removable battery, expandable memory, an mp3 player, the ability to send MMS, etc) for around $500 FULL PRICE. the wing (and several others) are just far superior.
but go ahead & pay way too much for a status symbol if you want. i’ll just think you’re stupid for doing so.
Chris……the King of Mactards.
I think the point of this was to debate the iPhone. Its seems as always Mactards can take any conversation and turn it into a rant on why Macs are better than PC’s. Fact of the matter is both are shit. I work on both, just got a new Macbook Pro…not impressed. Basically Macs are good for organizing your hobbies, music, photos, movies. You want to do some real work, you build your own PC, 5 times more powerful than any Mac on the market and at half the cost. Each has its use, one is not better then the other. Fact of the matter is iPhone is another gadget, and when your ready to some serious work, you turn to well designed device, not one you have to keep wiping your fingerprints from.
Bye the way, Steve Jobs called (on my Nokia), he said you can stop sucking his dick now.
The Real Ben,
If anyone’s a crybaby it’s you people who can’t handle the fact that engineers in Asia - and Finland - have now been engineering products with all the features absent from the iToy for ages. It would probably break your heart to acknowledge the goddamn truth that the American engineers ain’t engineering better products.
Your ignorant, racist comments only demonstrate that you’re in dire need of an education. Save yourself from embarrassment and shoot yourself instead. Please.
Well said Candy. I appreicate apples’s effort to bring cool products, but, after having seen too many software bugs in their iPods and iPhones, I’ve made up my mind never to buy apple products. I don’t want to be another tester for Steve Jobs anymore while he is pocketing billions off us.